Legislature(2023 - 2024)DAVIS 106

02/07/2024 08:00 AM House EDUCATION

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08:00:47 AM Start
08:02:23 AM Presentation(s): the Nation's Charter Report Card
09:09:14 AM HB236
09:45:43 AM HB230
09:58:51 AM Adjourn
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+ teleconferenced
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+ Presentation: The Nation’s Charter Report Card by TELECONFERENCED
Paul E. Peterson, Henry Lee Shattuck Professor
of Government, Harvard University
*+ HB 236 UA MAJOR MAINTEN. MODERNIZATION FUND TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
*+ HB 230 OUT-OF-STATE TCHG EXPERIENCE & SALARIES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
          HB 236-UA MAJOR MAINTEN. MODERNIZATION FUND                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:09:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  RUFFRIDGE announced  that  the next  order of  business                                                               
would be  HOUSE BILL NO. 236,  "An Act relating to  the duties of                                                               
the Board  of Regents of  the University of  Alaska; establishing                                                               
the  University of  Alaska  major  maintenance and  modernization                                                               
fund;  repealing  the University  of  Alaska  building fund;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:10:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WILL STAPP,  Alaska State  Legislature, as  prime                                                               
sponsor, presented HB 236, and  paraphrased the sponsor statement                                                               
[included  in  the  committee  packet],  which  read  as  follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     As of this  year, the University of  Alaska (UA) system                                                                    
     has an  estimated $1.4  billion in  backlogged deferred                                                                    
     maintenance projects. 40% of  state buildings belong to                                                                    
     the   university,  and   university-affiliated  members                                                                    
     across our state are  hindered while working, studying,                                                                    
     and  living in  facilities  and  dormitories that  have                                                                    
     fallen into  disrepair. Without  a clear  fiscal vision                                                                    
     and  framework,  the  $1.4 billion  backlog  will  only                                                                    
     continue  to  grow,  and  our  university  system  will                                                                    
     suffer.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     HB 236 will solve this  problem by establishing a major                                                                    
     maintenance  and modernization  fund.  With this  fund,                                                                    
     the Board  of Regents  will be  able to  leverage state                                                                    
     funding to  create a clear,  concise plan  for reducing                                                                    
     the  UA  system's  deferred maintenance  backlog.  This                                                                    
     bill intends to bring  UA long-term financial stability                                                                    
     that will signify the State  of Alaska's investment for                                                                    
     its students and higher education institutions.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Deferred  maintenance is  an ongoing  cost, not  a one-                                                                    
     time payment.  The University  of Alaska  building fund                                                                    
     exists  in   the  state's  budget  but   has  not  been                                                                    
     consistently  funded,   which  led  to   an  unreliable                                                                    
     funding stream  which the UA  system could  not utilize                                                                    
     to resolve its deferred  maintenance backlog. To remedy                                                                    
     this, HB 236 will establish  a funding source that will                                                                    
     be   exclusively  used   for   major  maintenance   and                                                                    
     modernization  projects.  The  future  generations  and                                                                    
     workforces of  our state must  have the  opportunity to                                                                    
     thrive  in safe,  modern buildings  that lead  Alaskans                                                                    
     north to the future.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:13:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAUL  MENKE,  Staff,  Representative  Will  Stapp  ,Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, on behalf of Representative  Stapp, prime sponsor of                                                               
HB 236,  began a PowerPoint  [hardcopy included in  the committee                                                               
packet], titled  "HB 236: UA Major  Maintenance and Modernization                                                               
Act."  He  proceeded to slide 2, titled "Problem,"  which read as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:'                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     .notdef UA System has an extensive Deferred Maintenance (DM)                                                               
     backlog                                                                                                                    
          .notdef 40% of Alaska state buildings are university-                                                                 
          owned                                                                                                                 
          .notdef 68% of Alaskas DM backlog is in the UA system                                                                 
     .notdef Currently no clear fiscal plan for catching up on                                                                  
     deferred maintenance projects                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. MENKE  added that projects  within the university  system are                                                               
capital projects which require  individual appropriations, and it                                                               
is not conducive to creating  a predictable source of funding for                                                               
the university to catch up on its deferred maintenance backlog.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:14:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MENKE moved to slide 3,  titled "Map of UA System," showing a                                                               
visual  representation   of  the   state's  main   and  satellite                                                               
campuses.   The  deferred  maintenance backlog  is spread  across                                                               
almost all campuses throughout Alaska,  and HB 236 has a solution                                                               
for reducing the expensive backlog and making the university                                                                    
system more marketable, he said.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:14:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MENKE moved to slide 4, titled "HB 236's Solution:," which                                                                  
read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     .notdef Create a reliable fund that the UA system can use to                                                               
     catch up on deferred maintenance projects                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     .notdef Ensure the fiscally responsible expenditure of funds                                                               
     being used for deferred maintenance projects                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     .notdef Maintain respect for legislative constitutional                                                                    
     appropriation authority                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:15:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MENKE gave the section analysis for HB 236 shown on slides 5                                                                
through 7, which read as follows [original punctuation                                                                          
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1: - Adds the duty  for the Board of Regents to                                                                    
     develop  a comprehensive  plan for  applicable projects                                                                    
     to  be  funded  from   the  UA  Major  Maintenance  and                                                                    
     Modernization Fund                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2: - Adds the duty  for the Board of Regents to                                                                    
     present  a  detailed,  written  report  to  the  Alaska                                                                    
     Legislature within  the first  30 days of  each regular                                                                    
     session  about current  and proposed  major maintenance                                                                    
     and modernization project.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section   3:   -   Defines   "major   maintenance   and                                                                    
     modernization project"                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section  4:  - Creates  the  UA  Major Maintenance  and                                                                    
     Modernization   Fund   which   will   consist   of:   -                                                                    
     Appropriations  from the  legislature -  Transfers from                                                                    
     the Board  of Regents - Interest  and investment income                                                                    
     - Donations - Establishes  procedures in the event that                                                                    
     the  legislature disapproves  of a  proposed project  -                                                                    
     States  the intent  of the  legislature to  appropriate                                                                    
     $35,000,000  /year -  Defines: -  "Board of  Regents" -                                                                    
     "Fund" - "Major Maintenance and Modernization Project"                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
         Section 5: - Repeals the UA Building Fund (AS                                                                          
     37.05.555)                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section 6:  - Outlines current projects  that the Board                                                                    
     of  Regents  can  leverage  funds  from  the  UA  Major                                                                    
     Maintenance  and  Modernization  Fund  without  further                                                                    
     appropriation                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section 7: - Provides for an immediate effective date                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:16:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MENKE moved  to slide 8, titled "Projects Approved  in HB 236                                                               
(Section 6)."   The slide  showed the improvements needed  to all                                                               
three  major  universities  and  a   list  of  all  the  projects                                                               
contained in the  bill.  He reminded committee  members they have                                                               
additional attachments in their committee packets.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:18:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX brought  up the report to  the legislature as                                                               
opposed to  just letting  regions "do their  business."   He said                                                               
the legislature does not know  about deferred maintenance, and he                                                               
asked, "Why the legislature?"                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STAPP   replied  that  the  legislature   is  the                                                               
accountability body  and controls  the appropriations.   He added                                                               
that the legislature, being the  approving body, seemed to be the                                                               
most effective way to have resources attributed.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX asked whether  the legislature needed to come                                                               
up with a definition to establish deferred maintenance.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STAPP  responded  there were  people  online  who                                                               
would explain more in depth.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:21:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAD  HUTCHINSON,  Director  of State  Relations,  University  of                                                               
Alaska  (UA), explained  the definition  of deferred  maintenance                                                               
and how  it associated with the  age of the building,  the amount                                                               
of  construction work  needed, as  well as  being prioritized  by                                                               
student use and both electrical and mechanical issues.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  opined that  there are  necessary compliance                                                               
needs, and improvements are not maintenance.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HUTCHINSON said  that the  Americans  with Disabilities  Act                                                               
(ADA)  compliance  is   a  component  of  UA's   focus,  but  the                                                               
predominant  focus is  out-of-date mechanical  equipment, leaking                                                               
fuel tanks,  and insufficient electrical  systems.  He  said UA's                                                               
hope  is to  become more  self-sufficient and  less dependent  on                                                               
state dollars.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:24:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR   ALLARD  asked   how  much   [money]  is   in  deferred                                                               
maintenance.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HUTCHINSON answered that it  is approaching 1.48 billion.  He                                                               
added  that the  top  three  projects are  at  the University  of                                                               
Alaska Anchorage (UAA).  He also  spoke to the amount of wear and                                                               
tear,  such  as  roofing  issues, at  the  University  of  Alaska                                                               
Southeast (UAS)  due to  weather conditions.   He noted  that the                                                               
governor has  had conversations with UA's  president, Pat Pitney,                                                               
regarding creative solutions for sustained funding.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:26:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD  expressed her frustration at  the university not                                                               
"maintaining  its home,"  and now  pleading with  the legislature                                                               
for "all this  money" now and each year thereafter.   She gave an                                                               
example wherein  she had dereliction  of duty and  not maintained                                                               
her home but expected insurance to cover the damages.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. HUTCHINSON referred  to the 1.5 billion dollars  and the "red                                                               
book" on  page 56 that  showed a chart,  and the lack  of capital                                                               
appropriations over the years.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD  interjected Mr. Hutchinson and  opined that what                                                               
he began stating is just an  excuse and it was alarming that UA's                                                               
finances have  not been  figured out.   She questioned  what UA's                                                               
capital budget money went to.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STAPP  suggested to  think about  who appropriated                                                               
the  money in  the first  place, which  was the  state, having  a                                                               
constitutional obligation  to the university system.   He further                                                               
explained  that the  university  gets its  money through  various                                                               
entities and  the budget is  transparent as to where  those funds                                                               
actually go.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:30:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LUKE FULP, Chief Financial Officer,  University of Alaska System,                                                               
explained that the  deferred maintenance priority had  been a top                                                               
capital priority for the Board of  Regents for the last 20 years,                                                               
with most  recently a $50-million request  before the legislature                                                               
every year with  a specific slate of projects.   He added that UA                                                               
had adjusted its  approach, and now comes with a  request for $35                                                               
million, which he  stated was "a modest request."   He said UA is                                                               
a very  large system  with many facilities  within.   He stressed                                                               
that UA  is not  just looking  to the  legislature to  "solve the                                                               
problem" for it but  has designed a plan to use  its own funds to                                                               
contribute starting  in 2028.  If  HB 236 were enacted,  UA would                                                               
pay $10  million per year and  receive $35 million per  year from                                                               
the legislature.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:35:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY asked  how  the Board  of  Regents and  the                                                               
president [of UA] have been  involved, as well as the involvement                                                               
at the legislative level.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STAPP said there is  a lot of technical thought to                                                               
unwind   the  problem.      He  said   that   outside  of   state                                                               
appropriation,  the  primary purpose  is  tuition.   He  gave  an                                                               
example  of a  maintenance backlog  and the  possibility of  then                                                               
raising tuition; however, if that  type of policy were enacted to                                                               
solve  the problem,  it incentivizes  Alaska  children to  pursue                                                               
education  elsewhere  for  more  reasonable  tuition.    He  said                                                               
deferred maintenance  is a problem that  has gotten progressively                                                               
worse, and in  turn gets progressively more  expensive over time.                                                               
He said  the concept  behind HB  236 is to  make the  velocity of                                                               
money more efficient so it can go further.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:39:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE  referred to page  5 of  the bill and  that he                                                               
was seeing  prescribed language  referencing specific  places and                                                               
things.    He  asked  if  someone could  speak  to  the  specific                                                               
language.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. MENKE  replied the specific  language built into the  bill is                                                               
based off  of the capital projects  that UA had requested  and is                                                               
designed that if the bill  were passed, these projects in Section                                                               
6  would be  the  projects that  the Board  of  Regents would  be                                                               
allowed to use funds for.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE  commented about a possible  statutory process                                                               
to alter the bill and asked  whether there would be a simpler way                                                               
or a potential change that may need  to be made 20 years down the                                                               
road.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. MENKE replied  that he did not  see a simpler way.   If there                                                               
were  new projects  that  came  up, a  similar  process would  be                                                               
needed,  and  he   opined  that  the  proposed  way   is  a  more                                                               
streamlined way.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:41:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  commented that  the bill looked  like a                                                               
creative solution to  a very real problem, and  she supported it.                                                               
She added  that it  was important to  recognize the  state's K-12                                                               
system  lacks the  same  opportunities  UA has  to  meet its  own                                                               
needs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:42:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  advised that  the proposed  legislation must                                                               
be evaluated  carefully, and he  noted that modernization  is not                                                               
maintenance.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STAPP  stated  that   he  agreed;  however,  when                                                               
looking at building operations it  is wise to look at replacement                                                               
costs and modernizing systems to reduce overall operation costs.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:44:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE announced that HB 236 was held over.                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
charter state rankings Alaska presentation V4A.pdf HEDC 2/7/2024 8:00:00 AM
The Nation's Charter Report Card 2.7.24 HEDC.pdf HEDC 2/7/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 230 Fiscal note_DEED Education support and Admin as of 1.22.24.pdf HEDC 2/7/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 230
HB 230 Research - DEED 2023 Teacher Data Handouts 3.7.23.pdf HEDC 2/7/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 230
HB 230 Research - Teacher Retention and Recruitment Action Plan 4.2021.pdf HEDC 2/7/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 230
HB 230 Sectional Analysis - Version A 1.16.24.pdf HEDC 2/7/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 230
HB 230 Sponsor Statement - Version A 1.17.24.pdf HEDC 2/7/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 230
HB 230 Version A 1.16.24.pdf HEDC 2/7/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 230
HB 236 Fiscal note_UofA as of 2.2.24.pdf HEDC 2/7/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 236
HB 236 Sectional Analysis version A.pdf HEDC 2/7/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 236
HB 236 Presentation.pdf HEDC 2/7/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 236
HB 236 Sponsor Statement version A.pdf HEDC 2/7/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 236
HB 236 Support Document - ASUAF Resolution.pdf HEDC 2/7/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 236
HB 236 Support Document - UA Deferred Maintenance Projects and Descriptions.pdf HEDC 2/7/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 236
HB 236 Support Document - UA Strategy.pdf HEDC 2/7/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 236
HB 236 Support Document - United Academics Support Letter.pdf HEDC 2/7/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 236
HB 236 version A.PDF HEDC 2/7/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 236